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Mundovelo
Number of posts : 394 Registration date : 2011-06-01
| Subject: Rider data Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:02 am | |
| 10927- ARAUJO MELO Rodrigo.....MELO Rodrigo Araujo...name correct | |
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frenchfan
Number of posts : 1174 Registration date : 2012-01-19
| Subject: Re: Rider data Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:43 pm | |
| The birthdates of some Iranian riders of Azad University Giant Team and Tabriz Petrochemical Team have changed on the UCI website.
DANESHVAR KHOURRAM Mohammad IRI 08.04.1993 SAEIDI TANHA Abbas IRI 05.01.1981 KHALILI KHOSROSHAHI Behnam IRI 07.02.1989 MALEKI MIZAN Ramin IRI 18.03.1987
SAFARZADEH Saeid IRI 21.09.1985 KHORRAMI Karim IRI 04.06.1991
I think that BENHAM Khosroshahi (KHOSROSHAHI Behnam) and KHALILI KHOSROSHAHI Behnam are the same rider under the identity of the latter with a new birthdate (07.02.1989). Both had no team after 31/05/2008 and rode in Malaysia. Moreover their names and birthdates could have been mistaken. | |
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stephane david
Number of posts : 1498 Age : 63 Woonplaats : Paris area Registration date : 2009-08-18
| Subject: Re: Rider data Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:46 pm | |
| Some retired riders : #4405, RIBER SELLEBJERG Thomas and #410 LJUNGBLAD Jonas are both Sport Directors with Team Concordia #2001, CORIONI Claudio announced his retirement a few days ago... - LeonCQ wrote:
- done till here
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Hans
Number of posts : 4146 Registration date : 2009-08-17
| Subject: Re: Rider data Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:25 pm | |
| In case the names of the Brazilian riders in the database should all be arranged like the Portuguese (FATHER Given Mother), written without Da, De, Des or Dos and without accents, except for the ç and Ç, then I suggest the following changes for consistency:
647;CAMARGO FILHO Armando Reis Costa 1047;SILVA Valcemar Justino 1112;NOVELLO Marcos Christian 1262;NETO Hugo Alves Prado 1594;SANTOS Fabricio Leprati 1828;BENSI Fabio Lemos 1836;FRANÇA Carlos Roberto Marques 1872;SANTOS Sidnei 2960;SILVA Rodrigo Melo Brito 3533;ZOMMER Anderson 5046;WEBER Cleberson Almeida 5079;ANDRIATO Rafael Mattos 5080;SERPA Raphael Henriques Mancini 5386;LIMA Leonardo Vieira 5390;PANIZO Gregolry Alves Freitas 6275;SILVA Elismar Ferreira 6672;TABANEZ Bruno Fernando Oliveira 6675;SOUZA JUNIOR Geraldo Silva 6677;SILVA Glauber Alexandre Nascimento 7184;ALRELIO JUNIOR Jose Paschoal 7242;TERRA Danilo Nogueira Lopes 7243;CAMPOS Fabiano Dias 7254;SANTOS Adriano Martins 7575;SIEBERT Ivo Lucas 7597;BARROSO Nilton Jose Virgens 7600;RODRIGUES Jose Eriberto Silva Medeiros 8022;SILVA Jocemildo Pereira 8029;SILVA Bruno Pereira (Pereira) 8031;SILVA Rogerio Rodrigues (Rodrigues) 10251;ESPIRITO SANTO Fabio Veloso 11967;CASTRO Ramon Farias Filho 12409;SANTOS Pedro Romero Neto 12654;FEIX Everson Luis 12715;SOUZA Tiago Paula 14133;PINHEIRO Andre Gomes 14134;ARAUJO Marcelo Oliveira 16023;MAGALHAES Tony Azevedo 16203;KRAMP Leandro Salim 16667;BRUNO Antoelson Dornelles Silva 16673;SACRAMENTO Josimar Oliveira 16760;KNAPP Mauricio Bielinski 18408;SILVA Thiago Santos Frade 18592;MAIA Renan Izidio Malizia Doyle 18950;CAMILO Everson Assis 18952;MACEDO Rogerio Nascimento 19117;GASPAR Joao Marcelo Pereira 19122;PEREIRA Joao Paulo Firmino 19151;ANDRIATTO Geovane Silverio Matos 19342;GRANDI Teo Prado 19689;SILVA JUNIOR Vagner Jose 19808;CANCELLARA Carlos Henrique Palladino 19814;MIRANDA Elvis Felisberto 19939;SILVA Leandro Alves 20467;SANTOS Emerson Silva 20477;ALMEIDA Andre Souza 20480;SILVA Maique Lourenço | |
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frenchfan
Number of posts : 1174 Registration date : 2012-01-19
| Subject: Re: Rider data Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:02 am | |
| MORERA NUÑEZ Luis Roberto;CRC19690711 APARI DUEÑAS Jose;PER19780427 MUÑOZ BAÑOZ David;ESP19790609 = retired
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MarkCQ
Number of posts : 188 Registration date : 2009-07-11
| Subject: Re: Rider data Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:43 am | |
| - MarkCQ wrote:
- All Corrected
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frenchfan
Number of posts : 1174 Registration date : 2012-01-19
| Subject: Re: Rider data Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:20 pm | |
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Riccoen
Number of posts : 439 Registration date : 2009-08-25
| Subject: Re: Rider data Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:31 am | |
| - Hans wrote:
- In case the names of the Brazilian riders in the database should all be arranged like the Portuguese (FATHER Given Mother), written without Da, De, Des or Dos and without accents, except for the ç and Ç, then I suggest the following changes for consistency:
Portuguese names order is MOTHER Given (usually two, but also one or three) Father. But I think your corrections are ok | |
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Hans
Number of posts : 4146 Registration date : 2009-08-17
| Subject: Re: Rider data Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:25 pm | |
| 16582;LIU We njie (typo) 2683;AL Thijs; Website link gives a domain name for sale. Delete 19255;PLEWS Matt; @MattPlews 11825;COLLIER Thomas; www.thomascollier.com 15731;DEWEER Jochen; @Jochen_Deweer 17891;MCLAUGHLIN James; www.mclaughlinjames.blogspot.com @jmclaughlin90 20812;HUCKER Robbie; @RobbieHucker 21212;HAIG Jack; http://jackhaig.wordpress.com @jackhaig93 21218;BREMANIS Ansis; @Bremanis_A 21220;VAN STAEYEN Kevin; @Kevinvanstaeyen - MarkCQ wrote:
- Corrected
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franss
Number of posts : 83 Registration date : 2011-05-15
| Subject: Re: Rider data Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:46 pm | |
| One small remark re Hans' excellent overview of Brazilian names. It all seems rather consequent the way it is done now, but still one name puzzles me (and mainly because I want to know for sure I understand what is going on :-)
6675;SOUZA JUNIOR Geraldo Silva is mentioned in teh Results of the Copa America as SILVA JUNIOR, Geraldo. IN the Brazilian Ranking 04.2378.04 he is named Geraldo da Silva Jr So shouldn't it be more logic to name him SILVA JUNIOR Geraldo Souza Frans | |
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LeonCQ
Number of posts : 653 Registration date : 2009-03-07
| Subject: Re: Rider data Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:50 pm | |
| - Riccoen wrote:
- Portuguese names order is MOTHER Given (usually two, but also one or three) Father.
Are you sure? That means that regarding f.e. PAULINHO Sergio Miguel Moreira: -his father is XX Moreira ??? -his mother is XX Paulinho ??? I doubt that... Wiki: The first surname is usually the mother's family surname and the second surname is the father's family surname; (however, the order of the surnames can be reversed and it is common to find people with three or four surnames) | |
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Mundovelo
Number of posts : 394 Registration date : 2011-06-01
| Subject: Re: Rider data Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:38 pm | |
| - LeonCQ wrote:
- Riccoen wrote:
- Portuguese names order is MOTHER Given (usually two, but also one or three) Father.
Are you sure? That means that regarding f.e. PAULINHO Sergio Miguel Moreira: -his father is XX Moreira ??? -his mother is XX Paulinho ???
I doubt that...
Wiki: The first surname is usually the mother's family surname and the second surname is the father's family surname; (however, the order of the surnames can be reversed and it is common to find people with three or four surnames)
MOREIRA is mother name PAULINHO is father name In Spain it is on the contrary ex-: Joaquin RODRIGUEZ OLIVER RODRIGUEZ is father name OLIVER is mother name | |
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LeonCQ
Number of posts : 653 Registration date : 2009-03-07
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Hans
Number of posts : 4146 Registration date : 2009-08-17
| Subject: Re: Rider data Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:36 pm | |
| - franss wrote:
- One small remark re Hans' excellent overview of Brazilian names. It all seems rather consequent the way it is done now, but still one name puzzles me (and mainly because I want to know for sure I understand what is going on :-)
6675;SOUZA JUNIOR Geraldo Silva is mentioned in teh Results of the Copa America as SILVA JUNIOR, Geraldo. IN the Brazilian Ranking 04.2378.04 he is named Geraldo da Silva Jr So shouldn't it be more logic to name him SILVA JUNIOR Geraldo Souza Frans The Brazilian results and ranking indeed call him Silva Jr but in Wikipedia ( http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geraldo_da_Silva_Souza ) his full name is Geraldo da Silva Souza Junior. So Junior comes with Souza and not with Silva. | |
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FilipCQ
Number of posts : 157 Age : 44 Woonplaats : Aarschot Registration date : 2009-03-07
| Subject: Re: Rider data Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:43 pm | |
| I'd like to add to this discussion what I wrote in the CQW-topic: - FilipCQ wrote:
- Hans wrote:
- If you also in the women database want to arrange the Brazilian names in accordance with the Portuguese method then the following are the corrections:
173;SILVA Janildes Fernandes 229;SILVA Clemilda Fernandes 528;SOUZA Uenia Fernandes (website off line)
Please be careful here! The Fernandes Silva sisters are commonly known as Fernandes.
If the second surname in a Portuguese or Brazilian name is very common (for example Silva or Souza), the first surname is very often used instead of the second one. A well-known example is Ayrton Senna da Silva.
So, you have to look at it case by case, especially when the fathers name is Silva or Souza. The first rider mentioned above, should stay FERNANDES SILVA Janildes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_name#Generalhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayrton_Senna | |
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Hans
Number of posts : 4146 Registration date : 2009-08-17
| Subject: Re: Rider data Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:15 pm | |
| 19863;AIT EL ABDIA Anass;MAR19 93032118025;KAB OU Hicham 18454;MEDINA BASTIDA Cristian Alejandro7745;CEDEÑO VILLEGAS Fabio 16396;MIRANDA TORUÑA Alexander;CRC 1980022417161;QUESADA ALVAREZ Orlando Esteban17163;SEGURA ARAYA Luis Diego19056;BARRANTES SANCHEZ Jonathan 20427;VARGAS RAMIREZ Jorge 20428;WONG ZHENG William 20431;MORERA AVILA Isaac 20432;MORALES SOLANO Romel - MarkCQ wrote:
- Corrected
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frenchfan
Number of posts : 1174 Registration date : 2012-01-19
| Subject: Re: Rider data Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:14 am | |
| GOUROV Maxim;KAZ19790130 = retired (in Astana's staff) FERRAND-PREVOT Evan;FRA19891221 FOURNET-FAYARD Sébastien;FRA19850425 BETOUIGT-SUIRE Jauffrey;FRA19920414 ANTZ Jean-Edouard;FRA19850113 AVRIL Jean-Christophe;FRA19830607 CHRISTOL-SCALIERI Jean-Emmanuel;FRA19801224 LATOUR Pierre-Roger;FRA19931012 PETRO Henri-Michel;FRA19730315 - MarkCQ wrote:
- Corrected
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Hans
Number of posts : 4146 Registration date : 2009-08-17
| Subject: Re: Rider data Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:35 pm | |
| - Hans wrote:
- 19863;AIT EL ABDIA Anass;MAR19930321
- MarkCQ wrote:
- Corrected
This one escaped 18622;AHMAD ZAMRI Mohamed Zulhilmi Afif;MAS199203 1018412;STOLTZ Conrad; www.conradstoltz.com @ConradStoltz 18414;PASIO Carl; http://carlpasio.com @CarlPasio 18422;NEL Johannes Christofel; www.jcnel.blogspot.com @jc_nel 20683;DROBISCH Till; http://tilldrobisch.blogspot.com @drobischTill 4223;FOUCHE Herman; @Hermanfouche87 19893;HENDRICKS Clint; @HendricksClint 19894;SMIT Willie; @williesmurfy 13175;GIRDLESTONE Dylan; http://dylangirdlestone.wordpress.com @DGirdlestone 7958;FERREIRA Jaco; @JacoKakaa 13173;JOOSTE Henning; @henningjooste 20806;JOOSTE Gareth; @GarethJooste 15193;SLAGTER Tom-Jelte; @tomjelteslagter - MarkCQ wrote:
- Corrected
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Hans
Number of posts : 4146 Registration date : 2009-08-17
| Subject: Re: Rider data Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:34 pm | |
| 21228;MUHD SHAIFUL Anwar Azis is 6680;ANUAR AZIZ Mohamed Saiful 5938;ZAINAL Mohamed Nor Ridzuan 20765;UYTTERSPROT Dieter; @DieterUyt 15383;BROEDERS Garrit; @Garrit_Pocito 18673;FOUBERT Glen; @GlenFoubert 19184;V AN ROY Simon; @SimonVanRoy 5267;GIAUX Jérôme; @JeromeGiaux 1459;DUYN Huub; website link not correct @HuubDuyn 19215;VINGERLING Michael; www.michaelvingerling.nl 14215;KERS Koos Jeroen; @koosjeroen 2492;DE GROOT Wouter; @w0ut3rd3gr00t 17886;GAY Aurélien; @aurelienGay 20724;JOIN Alexandre; @Alex63800 18812;JULLIEN Sébastien; @sebjullien 4123;BRUS Marco; website off line 21229;DONACHIE Kyle ; @KyleDonachie 21231;FOURIE James; @jamesfourie 21232;VAN HEERDEN Stephan; @stevenvheerden 21233;ROBERTS Luke; http://lukeroberts.co.za @Roberts_Luke
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Acevedo2
Number of posts : 37 Age : 33 Woonplaats : Algarve, Portugal Registration date : 2010-08-27
| Subject: Re: Rider data Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:42 pm | |
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Hans
Number of posts : 4146 Registration date : 2009-08-17
| Subject: Re: Rider data Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:09 pm | |
| 21234;KASHULULU Chiponeni Fiffy;NAM 1991060121236;HAMUNYELA Johannes;NAM 1993020814558;LOUBSER Jacques is the same rider as 12810;LOUBSER “Kosie” (who’s official name is actually Jacobus) 7935;GREEFF Jacques;RSA 198408024936;KLEINHANS Erik; www.kleinhansmuesli.com @kleinhansmuesli 10882;KEEY Charles; www.charleskeey.blogspot.com 13172;BARROW Clinton; @Clintonbarrow 13180;DAY Tyler; @tylerday21 4667;DAVEL WARD Shaun; @shaunward007 | |
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frenchfan
Number of posts : 1174 Registration date : 2012-01-19
| Subject: Re: Rider data Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:04 pm | |
| 4226;VENTER Jacobus 18926;EIBY Simon Holm Jacobsen 17962;JACOT-DESCOMBES Gil | |
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frenchfan
Number of posts : 1174 Registration date : 2012-01-19
| Subject: Re: Rider data Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:45 am | |
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Hans
Number of posts : 4146 Registration date : 2009-08-17
| Subject: Re: Rider data Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:11 pm | |
| 15696 is not Ber NEWMAN from Honduras but the German Be rnd NE UMANN, at the time living in Honduras ( http://wvw.nacion.com/ln_ee/1999/diciembre/19/deportes3.html ) His UCI code is GER 19490209 ( !!!) and when you Google this code, you still find him in the Masters results in Germany today 3445;SALAZAR BARRIENTOS Carlos Roberto4992;MANZAN ARES Walter 8836;CUBAS Jorge Jefford8838;SEGURADO Hernan Ricardo8842;LOPEZ DISCUA Elin Rodrigo;HON 1987031120695;FLORES SANCHEZ Leonardo Martin;NCA 1980052715969;DOSE Jose Carlos;PAR 19709513;DEMESTRI Pedro Andres;PAR 198821235;BARTH Gerben Joze Jürgen11964;ZEMKE Jens; @ZemkeJens 12054;AUER Gernot; www.gernot-auer.at @Auge39 16421;REITER Daniel; @ReiterDaniel 18142;RANACHER Lukas; @LukasRanacher 16061;WEISS Martin; @WhityBianco 12699;KAPELLER Hannes; @haennsen 19424;HARTMANN Andreas; @anderlhartmann 9841;VERSCHOOR Martijn; www.martijnverschoor.nl | |
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frenchfan
Number of posts : 1174 Registration date : 2012-01-19
| Subject: Re: Rider data Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:20 pm | |
| 3231;EFIMKIN Alexander = retired (sport director with Helicopters)
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