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frenchfan
Number of posts : 1174 Registration date : 2012-01-19
| Subject: Re: Rider data Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:09 pm | |
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Mundovelo
Number of posts : 394 Registration date : 2011-06-01
| Subject: Re: Rider data Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:47 pm | |
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Riccoen
Number of posts : 439 Registration date : 2009-08-25
| Subject: Re: Rider data Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:32 pm | |
| 21104;SILVA Ruben Manuel Mendes 21103;RODRIGUES Joao Pedro Lourenço 20910;MATOS Nuno Miguel Bico Alves 21105;LEAÇA Fabio Ruben Rafael | |
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Hans
Number of posts : 4148 Registration date : 2009-08-17
| Subject: Re: Rider data Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:54 pm | |
| At the occasion of Chinese New Year an attempt to bring some consistency in the Chinese names in the CQ database.
There are several methods for the Romanization of Chinese characters, but the official system is Pinyin. A Chinese family name, generally one Chinese character, is transcribed as one word and comes first. The Chinese given names are one or often two Chinese characters and come after the family name. Even in the case of two characters the official Pinyin transcription is spelled in one single two syllable word without hyphen. This rule is most of the time followed in the Peoples Republic of China whilst Hong Kong, Taiwan and Singapore often neglect this rule and “westernise” the transcription of the two characters by creating two given names. Hyphens between the two given names were used by other transcription systems. According to Pinyin the second word should in that case start with a small letter rather than with a capital.
So the spelling WONG Kam-Po on the UCI and CQ sites is doubly incorrect. As a hyphen is used it should be WONG Kam-po but according to Pinyin, it is WONG Kampo. However, as the rules are ignored in Hong Kong, it is mostly spelled as WONG Kam Po.
Of the 175 riders from China in the database, the majority has been romanized in accordance with the Pinyin rule. Only some 20 show two separate given names. Leave it up to you whether you want to change those. The rider id’s are: 4622, 4623, 7174, 9689, 10124, 12782, 12919, 14362, 16582, 18328, 18329, 18332, 18361, 19787, 19788, 19790, 19795, 21204, 21205 and 21207.
With the 160 riders from Hong Kong and Taiwan the Pinyin rules are consistently ignored and they are in the database with two separate given names, with the exception of four riders, which could be changed for consistency: 7237;ZHANG Jing Wei - 7238;HUANG Jin Bao - 7239;ZHENG Hong Ye - 16087;CHEN Zhi Rong There are also several hyphenated given names which, for consistency, should be changed by replacing the hyphen by a space. Rider id’s: 655, 2135, 2605, 7321, 11574, 11578, 12043, 12044, 13898, 16086, 17317, 17318, 17319, 17522 and 20690.
With the Singaporean riders from Chinese origin the rules are also ignored. In some cases an English first name has been added or is simply replacing the Chinese first name. The same is actually the case with some riders from Hong Kong.
Some other corrections: 4481;TSANG Kai Ming 4700;HUNG HSU Hwa Chien 796;GUO Zhangwang 19327;YUAN Juncheng 18540;XU Yulong 21026;CHAN Zhi Ming Ryan 14691;ONG Su Ping John | |
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frenchfan
Number of posts : 1174 Registration date : 2012-01-19
| Subject: Re: Rider data Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:35 pm | |
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frenchfan
Number of posts : 1174 Registration date : 2012-01-19
| Subject: Re: Rider data Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:55 am | |
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Hans
Number of posts : 4148 Registration date : 2009-08-17
| Subject: Re: Rider data Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:13 pm | |
| 10212;RAMIN Ghaemi (or GHAEMI Ramin) is retired and has no CQ result nor a team: delete 19250;RATCLIFFE James;GBR19880503 | |
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Acevedo2
Number of posts : 37 Age : 33 Woonplaats : Algarve, Portugal Registration date : 2010-08-27
| Subject: Re: Rider data Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:27 pm | |
| PEREZ FERNANDEZ Santiago -> Is not registed on Louletano-Dunas Douradas. Was a rumour but noting official; SANTOS Vergilio Martins POR19790529
And I think the correct one is RODRIGUEZ OLIVER Joaquim. Joaquin is a common spanish name and Joaquim is the catalan version. On his Twitter and website he use the catalan version (http://kecprosport.com/purito/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=446&Itemid=175).
Some spanish can say if i'm right or not. | |
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Mundovelo
Number of posts : 394 Registration date : 2011-06-01
| Subject: Re: Rider data Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:11 pm | |
| - Acevedo2 wrote:
- PEREZ FERNANDEZ Santiago -> Is not registed on Louletano-Dunas Douradas. Was a rumour but noting official;
SANTOS Vergilio Martins POR19790529
And I think the correct one is RODRIGUEZ OLIVER Joaquim. Joaquin is a common spanish name and Joaquim is the catalan version. On his Twitter and website he use the catalan version (http://kecprosport.com/purito/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=446&Itemid=175).
Some spanish can say if i'm right or not. It is correct .. in Catalan he is Joaquim.. | |
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frenchfan
Number of posts : 1174 Registration date : 2012-01-19
| Subject: Re: Rider data Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:18 pm | |
| FARGIALLA Jean-Pierre;LIB19831203......no result and retired = delete
LIU Wenjie;CHN19830730
On your rider data Jason Christie (NZL) is both Elite-2 and a rider of Team Differdange-Losch. I think he is Elite-2. | |
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frenchfan
Number of posts : 1174 Registration date : 2012-01-19
| Subject: Re: Rider data Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:25 am | |
| - frenchfan wrote:
- GHALICHI Milad Seyed;IRI19861111
MALIKI Hasan;IRI19870321 MOKHTARI Farhad;IRI19880806 KHOSROSHAHI Behnam;IRI19820206 FAHRIDI KOVIJ Mehdi;IRI19770328 GHAEMI Ramin;IRI19861010 KHALILI KHOSROSHAHI Behnam;IRI19880602
JÄÄSKELÄINEN Pekka;FIN19840103 ...... I think you forgot the 3rd "Ä"
GABROVSKI Ivailo;BUL19780131......suspended = http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/13011/Disqualified-Tour-of-Turkey-winner-Ivailo-Gabrovski-gets-a-two-year-suspension-for-EPO.aspx I'm adding something about Iranian names. Farhad, Behnam and Hasan are Iranian given names. The ending -i in family names means "son of...". For example the meaning of "Maliki" is "Son of Malik". | |
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Hans
Number of posts : 4148 Registration date : 2009-08-17
| Subject: Re: Rider data Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:22 pm | |
| 17777;ABBOTT Steve;CAY19770326 18954;GOMBAKOMBA Desire;ZIM19880401 8873;SMETTEM James; @james_smettem 8491;TAMARANTE Khelil; @khelil_h 7233;AL MURAWWI Mohammed Hasan; @Malmurawwi 3367;HERRADA LOPEZ Jose; @joherradalopez 17534;HERRADA LOPEZ Jesus; @jesushl90 11211;CARRASCO GARCIA Sergio ;@el_poliche 8081;BRAICO Alexandr; @alexbraico 11721;TERNOVSEK Marcel; @marcelink0 20963;LYNCH Paul; @Paul_Lynch6 410;LJUNGBLAD Jonas; website link not valid
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frenchfan
Number of posts : 1174 Registration date : 2012-01-19
| Subject: Re: Rider data Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:53 am | |
| I think you should delete the twitters and websites of unfortunately deceased riders. On my mind it's quite shocking On your site I found the twitters and websites of the followings: CABEDO CARDA Victor TONDO VOLPINI Xavier WEYLANDT Wouter STANDER Burry VAN HEERDEN Juan MATZBACHER Andreas (incorrect website) NOLF Frederiek DE FAUW Dimitri Frank Vandenbroucke's website is a tribute to him. You can keep it. | |
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DijkCQ
Number of posts : 358 Registration date : 2009-08-16
| Subject: Re: Rider data Sat Feb 16, 2013 5:05 pm | |
| Twitter David Lopez Garcia (id=888) is not @davidlogar---an unkown Mexican guy---but @dlogar. | |
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Hans
Number of posts : 4148 Registration date : 2009-08-17
| Subject: Re: Rider data Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:04 pm | |
| 4020;SILVA Igor Alberto Secundino 11327;ANDRÉ Bruno 14746;COSTA Steven Andre 21209;EPALANGA Zeferino 21210;CARVALHO Mario Bruno Lemos;ANG19950122;Junior 21213;KINOSHITA Tomohiro
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frenchfan
Number of posts : 1174 Registration date : 2012-01-19
| Subject: Re: Rider data Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:58 pm | |
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