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Number of posts : 188 Registration date : 2009-07-11

MarkCQ wrote:: All corrected

Number of posts : 439 Registration date : 2009-08-25

19050;VEGA SOLANO Elias

MarkCQ wrote:: Corrected

Number of posts : 439 Registration date : 2009-08-25

19599;VILLALOBOS SOLIS Roman

MarkCQ wrote:: Corrected

Number of posts : 4143 Registration date : 2009-08-17

4793;HAROON Rashid;PAK1971
19586;MOURAD Ahmed;LIB19910315
19589;SABIR Ali Muhammad;PAK1986
19593;RAFIQ Muhammad
19594;BINNEY Simon;NZL19910930
19595;CREIGHTON Scott;NZL19930522

MarkCQ wrote:: Corrected

Number of posts : 4143 Registration date : 2009-08-17

16413;THOMPSON Peter;AUS19860603
19601;DONATH Felix;GER19930107
19602;STIER Maximilian;GER19931108
19603;MENZEL Bastian;GER19930616
19604;BORMANN Maximilian;GER19930501
19605;VASYLIV Yuriy;GER19930913
19609;HAFNER Domen;SLO19930811
19610;GROSELJ Ziga;SLO19930831
19611;HOSE Blake;AUS19920706 twitter.com/blakehose
19612;BURKART Achim;GER19920630
19615;ISGANDAROV Tural;AZE19920112
19616;KOCH Jonas;GER19930625
19617;MUSTAFAYEV Ruslan;AZE19870321

MarkCQ wrote:: Corrected

Number of posts : 394 Registration date : 2011-06-01

5390-PANIZO Gregory Alves de Freitas...Gregolry

MarkCQ wrote:: Corrected

Number of posts : 394 Registration date : 2011-06-01

new web Jordi Simon (Andalucia 2012)

http://kecprosport.com/jordisimon/

MarkCQ wrote:: Corrected

Number of posts : 4143 Registration date : 2009-08-17

19636;LOFT Peter;AUS19911105 twitter.com/PeteLoft123
19637;OCKERBY Luke;AUS19920517

As MAHMOUD Amr Ahmed (id=5873, EGY19861011) and AHMED Amr Mahmoud (id=13050, EGY19860504) seemed to be the same rider they were a few weeks ago combined in one rider entry as MAHMOUD Amr Ahmed, EGY19861011.
With the results of the Pan Arab Games a new entry was created for MOHAMED Amr (id=19634, EGY19860504). This seems to be again the same rider.
When checking the official results of the last years he appears under two codes and with at least seven different spellings and sequences of family and given names:
AHMED MOHAMED Amr Mahmoud: EGY19860504
AHMED Amr: EGY19860504 but also EGY19861011
MOHAMED Amr Mahmoud: EGY19860504
AMR Ahmed (Mahmoud): EGY19860504
MAHMOUD Amr Ahmed: EGY19861011
AHMAD Amr Mahmoud: EGY19861011
MAHMO(U)D Amr: EGY19861011
And the latest:
MOHAMED Amr: EGY19860504
Unless somebody has a better idea or more information, I suggest to consolidate this all as AHMED MOHAMED Amr Mahmoud; EGY19860504
His photo is here:
http://rs.arabgames2011.qa/ENG/ZB/ZBB101A_CR@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ENG_number=22061.htm
On the site of the Pan Arab Games you can actually find many more missing photos for the database here: http://rs.arabgames2011.qa/ENG/ZZ/ZZE100B_CR@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ENG.htm

LeonCQ wrote:: I was already puzzled when I read about a "new" Amr Mohammed, but didn't have time yet for a severe investigation. So thanks again Sherlock Hans!

MarkCQ wrote:: Corrected, I guess the Amr Mohammed thing is solved already

Number of posts : 4143 Registration date : 2009-08-17

MarkCQ wrote:: Corrected, I guess the Amr Mohammed thing is solved already

No, nothing has been changed in the database yet.

A few more:
12774;JAWAD Mansoor;BRN19860917 and 8475;MANSOOR Mohammed;BRN19870917 are the same rider:
JAWAD Mansoor Mohammed;BRN19870917
When combining the results you end up with two entries for 4th place in the TTT of the Pan Arab Games 2011.
One of them should go to 12775:JAWAD Ali, whose full name is JAWAD Ali Hassan Mansoor

5438;ALAWI Taha Sayed Alawi Adnan
9847;ALAWI Sayed Ahmed Khalil
18438;SALMAN Ali Abdul Abbas
19638;STRAUB Manuel;GER19930309
19639;IINO Tomoyuki;JPN19891005

MarkCQ wrote:: Corrected

Number of posts : 653 Registration date : 2009-03-07

Hans wrote:

MarkCQ wrote:: Corrected, I guess the Amr Mohammed thing is solved already

No, nothing has been changed in the database yet.

I forgot that all Mohameds, Amrs, Ahmeds and Mahmouds had been united to 1 rider already. Now Amr Mohamed has been joined too.
I've added a Rider Comment on the rider's CQ page now. If somebody knows others rider who need such a Comment, just give a hint.

Number of posts : 83 Registration date : 2011-05-15

I still can't discover any logic in Danish Family names and "in between names", but try to do it as logical as possible. Since the DCU Uses only capitals, it isn't very handy as a source. I fount another Danish site which does it: http://www.feltet.dk/
Based on the info found there, some possible changes:
Mark SEHESTED PEDERSEN
Søren Sølvsten NIELSEN
Asbjørn Kragh ANDERSEN
Mads BUGGE ANDERSEN

Number of posts : 653 Registration date : 2009-03-07

franss wrote:: I still can't discover any logic in Danish Family names and "in between names", but try to do it as logical as possible. Since the DCU Uses only capitals, it isn't very handy as a source. I fount another Danish site which does it: http://www.feltet.dk/
Based on the info found there, some possible changes:
Mark SEHESTED PEDERSEN
Søren Sølvsten NIELSEN
Asbjørn Kragh ANDERSEN
Mads BUGGE ANDERSEN

Thanks Frans!
Following the logic of Feltet.dk seems to be the best option for us.

Number of posts : 394 Registration date : 2011-06-01

LeonCQ wrote:

franss wrote:: I still can't discover any logic in Danish Family names and "in between names", but try to do it as logical as possible. Since the DCU Uses only capitals, it isn't very handy as a source. I fount another Danish site which does it: http://www.feltet.dk/
Based on the info found there, some possible changes:
Mark SEHESTED PEDERSEN
Søren Sølvsten NIELSEN
Asbjørn Kragh ANDERSEN
Mads BUGGE ANDERSEN

Thanks Frans!
Following the logic of Feltet.dk seems to be the best option for us.

However, if we bear in mind that the names in all caps are correct, note on the relationship of Spanish riders, many errors...
for example

Aitor Osa EIZAGUIRRE
Aketza Peña IZA
Adolfo Garcia QUESADA

Number of posts : 653 Registration date : 2009-03-07

Mundovelo wrote:: However, if we bear in mind that the names in all caps are correct, note on the relationship of Spanish riders, many errors...
for example

Aitor Osa EIZAGUIRRE
Aketza Peña IZA
Adolfo Garcia QUESADA

Spanish / Danish

Number of posts : 394 Registration date : 2011-06-01

[quote="LeonCQ]Spanish / Danish[/quote]

you mean this?

Number of posts : 653 Registration date : 2009-03-07

Mundovelo wrote:: you mean this?

I mean this: for Danish names we can use a Danish site as reliable source, but not for Spanish names...

Number of posts : 394 Registration date : 2011-06-01

LeonCQ wrote:

Mundovelo wrote:: you mean this?

I mean this: for Danish names we can use a Danish site as reliable source, but not for Spanish names...

OK entirely in agreement.

Number of posts : 4143 Registration date : 2009-08-17

I agree that one should rely on a Danish site to get the names of the Danes right but unfortunately there is another Danish site, www.cyclingstars.dk , showing some Danish names different from www.feltet.dk
For example, two of the corrections suggested by Frans:
Søren SØLVSTEN NIELSEN rather than Søren Sølvsten NIELSEN
Asbjørn KRAGH ANDERSEN instead of Asbjørn Kragh ANDERSEN
Is there a Dane amongst the followers of this forum who can play arbiter… Rolling Eyes

Number of posts : 653 Registration date : 2009-03-07

Hans wrote:: I agree that one should rely on a Danish site to get the names of the Danes right but unfortunately there is another Danish site, www.cyclingstars.dk , showing some Danish names different from www.feltet.dk
For example, two of the corrections suggested by Frans:
Søren SØLVSTEN NIELSEN rather than Søren Sølvsten NIELSEN
Asbjørn KRAGH ANDERSEN instead of Asbjørn Kragh ANDERSEN
Is there a Dane amongst the followers of this forum who can play arbiter…

Well, actually the only OFFICIAL way to write Danish names is FAMILYNAME Firstname Inbetweenname.
But many riders decide to make their inbetween more important to distinguish themselves from riders with the same (common) family name.

I'll ask someone from feltet.dk by mail....

Number of posts : 83 Registration date : 2011-05-15

Damn, those Danes...:-) And @Hans, I don't need an arbiter, I was only hoping that I solved the problem of the Danish names. But unfortunately, it didn't work :-) Maybe We cabn ask the DCU too (although it looks like the have found an excellent solution themselves (all CAPS :-)

Number of posts : 777 Registration date : 2009-10-01

Being a Dane I would have liked to offer you a better answer. However LeonCQs answer is the best answer

LeonCQ wrote:: Well, actually the only OFFICIAL way to write Danish names is FAMILYNAME Firstname Inbetweenname.
But many riders decide to make their inbetween more important to distinguish themselves from riders with the same (common) family name.

In Denmark you can have only 1 lastname/familyname and anything else counts as firstnames.

I haven't really figured out what CQ wants regarding names. Sometimes it looks like you wan't the full name exactly as it is written on the riders birth certificate (VALVERDE BELMONTE comes to mind) even when the rider isn't known by this name. Sometimes you use the name the rider uses (DOUGLAS Reggie instead of Reginald and RASMUSSEN Alex instead of RASMUSSEN Alex Nicki Sylvest)

Anyways as a Dane can have only 1 lastname that would be the way to go. Then you should try to decide if you want the birthcertificate lastname or the one the rider uses.

Number of posts : 653 Registration date : 2009-03-07

Jaroslav wrote:: Anyways as a Dane can have only 1 lastname that would be the way to go. Then you should try to decide if you want the birthcertificate lastname or the one the rider uses.

Well, in fact we would like to use the name under which the rider is "known", although I know this sounds very vague and unclear.
In Spanish and Portuguese, we've decided to use the full name (= 1 or 2 first names and father's and mother's family name). But we don't use f.e. Dutch christian names like Henricus Theodorus Josephus Knaven, then we use the given name Servais. So every language or country has its own difficulties.
With Danes, we can decide to have only their family names 'capitalized', but then there will be a problem with Brian HOLM, Michael MORKOV or Kasper KLOSTERGAARD whose family names are never used.

Number of posts : 4143 Registration date : 2009-08-17

16724;SINGH Sombir
19646;WALSCHEID Maximilian;GER19930613

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Number of posts : 4143 Registration date : 2009-08-17

5646;HIGUMA Yusuke twitter.com/higumax
19648;BAUER Rene;AUT19810717
19649;HANTZSCH Elmar;GER19830429

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Number of posts : 4143 Registration date : 2009-08-17

9612;ELVERY James;NZL19840202 ; Elite-2 ; http://jameselvery.blogspot.com ; twitter.com/elvery_nzl
19442;PADULO LENGUAZA Alejandro;PAR19920404
19652;LUKESEVICS Viesturs (new rider with Amore & Vita) is 4318;LUKSEVICS Viesturs (last year with Alpha Baltic)

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